Comments on: Beware Britt World Wide http://ifup.org/2006/07/16/beware-britt-world-wide Brandon Philips weblog on open source, robotics and technology Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:52:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Amrit Siew http://ifup.org/2006/07/16/beware-britt-world-wide#comment-56949 Amrit Siew Sun, 02 Nov 2008 20:50:52 +0000 http://ifup.org/2006/07/16/beware-britt-world-wide/#comment-56949 Hey Roy, Thanks for the information, great site. What i liked it the defined differences between a multi level marketing business and a pyramid and how to determine if an MLM is really a pyramid scheme. "A pyramid is an illegal business that involves the exchange of money primarily for enrolling other people into the scheme, usually without any product or service being delivered. Sometimes there may be the appearance of a product, but it’s only there to make the pyramid look like a real business. Few people outside of the pyramid desire the product. If you enrolled me into your “business” and I paid $300 to join BUT THERE WAS NO VALUABLE PRODUCT EXCHANGED, it could be an illegal pyramid." http://www.firstclassmlm.com/2007/12/07/pyramid-schemes-and-scams/ Amrit Siew Hey Roy,

Thanks for the information, great site.

What i liked it the defined differences between a multi level marketing business and a pyramid and how to determine if an MLM is really a pyramid scheme.

“A pyramid is an illegal business that involves the exchange of money primarily for enrolling other people into the scheme, usually without any product or service being delivered. Sometimes there may be the appearance of a product, but it’s only there to make the pyramid look like a real business. Few people outside of the pyramid desire the product.

If you enrolled me into your “business” and I paid $300 to join BUT THERE WAS NO VALUABLE PRODUCT EXCHANGED, it could be an illegal pyramid.”

http://www.firstclassmlm.com/2007/12/07/pyramid-schemes-and-scams/

Amrit Siew

]]> By: Roy Blocher http://ifup.org/2006/07/16/beware-britt-world-wide#comment-56685 Roy Blocher Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:50:44 +0000 http://ifup.org/2006/07/16/beware-britt-world-wide/#comment-56685 There have been alot of inaccurate or partial truths here. I recommend that if you seek truth, accurately and fairly presented, go to: http://www.firstclassmlm.com There are a set of questions and answers there, independent of any specific company, that clearly present MLM, or Network marketing and will clear up the confusion. Respectfully, Roy There have been alot of inaccurate or partial truths here. I recommend that if you seek truth, accurately and fairly presented, go to:

http://www.firstclassmlm.com

There are a set of questions and answers there, independent of any specific company, that clearly present MLM, or Network marketing and will clear up the confusion.

Respectfully,
Roy

]]> By: Amrit Siew http://ifup.org/2006/07/16/beware-britt-world-wide#comment-56087 Amrit Siew Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:58:14 +0000 http://ifup.org/2006/07/16/beware-britt-world-wide/#comment-56087 Hey guys, just putting myself out there one time, I am an IBO of Amway Global, not here to condemn you or your views or even convince you to join, lol. There is nothing wrong with your choice to go or not go along with this type of business. I just want to give you my perspective on the business and why i joined. I joined like many other people cause someone referred me to the opportunity, I had a good job, great car but wasn't really happy where my life was, I wanted to own my life instead of depending on others. Got really sick a while after i joined the business and had to leave my job. Went through depression even nutured thoughts of suicide. I have to say, luckily the team of people i joined with came around for me, helped my business when i was unable too, worked on my time when i was too sick to put in the work, and even provided me additional books from BWW that taught people about being successful, positive and self-motivated. I can honestly say without the motivation from my team, i wouldn't be here today. The thing is that asking people to join is a part of the business yea, but there is so much more that people are not being exposed to, like the friendship, motivation and all round positivity. Now i have my own businesses and still run Amyway on the side cause even though I may not be at the top level I gives me drive and confidence to do what i do on a daily basis. Just something to point out, If Amway Global is a scam, why was its website Quixtar.com built by Bill Gates? or promoted by Asafa Powell and Tina Turner? even used as a marketing medium and partner by Barnes and Noble, Sony, Ciruit City, Ace Hardware, and dozens more. To me if all these heavy hitters in their own industries are investing in this business,whats my small contribution? Hey guys, just putting myself out there one time, I am an IBO of Amway Global, not here to condemn you or your views or even convince you to join, lol. There is nothing wrong with your choice to go or not go along with this type of business. I just want to give you my perspective on the business and why i joined.

I joined like many other people cause someone referred me to the opportunity, I had a good job, great car but wasn’t really happy where my life was, I wanted to own my life instead of depending on others. Got really sick a while after i joined the business and had to leave my job. Went through depression even nutured thoughts of suicide.

I have to say, luckily the team of people i joined with came around for me, helped my business when i was unable too, worked on my time when i was too sick to put in the work, and even provided me additional books from BWW that taught people about being successful, positive and self-motivated. I can honestly say without the motivation from my team, i wouldn’t be here today.

The thing is that asking people to join is a part of the business yea, but there is so much more that people are not being exposed to, like the friendship, motivation and all round positivity.

Now i have my own businesses and still run Amyway on the side cause even though I may not be at the top level I gives me drive and confidence to do what i do on a daily basis.

Just something to point out, If Amway Global is a scam, why was its website Quixtar.com built by Bill Gates? or promoted by Asafa Powell and Tina Turner? even used as a marketing medium and partner by Barnes and Noble, Sony, Ciruit City, Ace Hardware, and dozens more.

To me if all these heavy hitters in their own industries are investing in this business,whats my small contribution?

]]> By: Stuart Lucks http://ifup.org/2006/07/16/beware-britt-world-wide#comment-53265 Stuart Lucks Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:45:03 +0000 http://ifup.org/2006/07/16/beware-britt-world-wide/#comment-53265 I ask you this: If pyramid schemes are illegal, how can this "pyramid scheme" be in business for more than 50 years? That's right, Amway started in the mid 1950's and now is the single largest retailer in the world, with 8 BILLION DOLLARS in sales!!! I say, if this is a pyrmaid scheme, where and how to I get in? Those of you who are ignorant or too lazy to do anything but talk will quickly call it a pyramid scheme because you don't have the guts to do something for yourselves. Here's a word of advice: keep complaining and believing that you can't win. Let the others like me get rich. I ask you this: If pyramid schemes are illegal, how can this “pyramid scheme” be in business for more than 50 years? That’s right, Amway started in the mid 1950’s and now is the single largest retailer in the world, with 8 BILLION DOLLARS in sales!!! I say, if this is a pyrmaid scheme, where and how to I get in?

Those of you who are ignorant or too lazy to do anything but talk will quickly call it a pyramid scheme because you don’t have the guts to do something for yourselves.

Here’s a word of advice: keep complaining and believing that you can’t win. Let the others like me get rich.

]]> By: Saranya Senguttuvan http://ifup.org/2006/07/16/beware-britt-world-wide#comment-53146 Saranya Senguttuvan Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:49:49 +0000 http://ifup.org/2006/07/16/beware-britt-world-wide/#comment-53146 Brandon philips, I had a tough time gathering some information on BWW as I was not very clear even after going through their website, which is when i found a link to your site. I should admit that the blog has both side views and I am immensely clear on what i want to do! Needless to say that I have been approached too by one of the IBO's. My answer to them is going to a clear NO. Thanks. Cheers, Saranya Senguttuvan Brandon philips,

I had a tough time gathering some information on BWW as I was not very clear even after going through their website, which is when i found a link to your site. I should admit that the blog has both side views and I am immensely clear on what i want to do! Needless to say that I have been approached too by one of the IBO’s. My answer to them is going to a clear NO.

Thanks.

Cheers, Saranya Senguttuvan

]]> By: vasundhar http://ifup.org/2006/07/16/beware-britt-world-wide#comment-53071 vasundhar Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:48:39 +0000 http://ifup.org/2006/07/16/beware-britt-world-wide/#comment-53071 Absolutely same painful story. Except two Variables He and Me. Thanks You saved my life and temptations, if ever I get any Absolutely same painful story.
Except two Variables He and Me.

Thanks You saved my life and temptations, if ever I get any

]]> By: lou http://ifup.org/2006/07/16/beware-britt-world-wide#comment-53020 lou Mon, 25 Aug 2008 06:53:58 +0000 http://ifup.org/2006/07/16/beware-britt-world-wide/#comment-53020 Those of you that do not know what multilevel marketing is, have filled your empty minds with it's a pyramid. Hope you finish what you start.But enjoy working 40 years to retire with 1/3 of your current salary which is not enough for you right now!Enjoy the rest of your lives and being so close minded and the unwillingness to work for your and your families future. Those of you that do not know what multilevel marketing is, have filled your empty minds with it’s a pyramid. Hope you finish what you start.But enjoy working 40 years to retire with 1/3 of your current salary which is not enough for you right now!Enjoy the rest of your lives and being so close minded and the unwillingness to work for your and your families future.

]]> By: Patrick http://ifup.org/2006/07/16/beware-britt-world-wide#comment-52472 Patrick Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:57:14 +0000 http://ifup.org/2006/07/16/beware-britt-world-wide/#comment-52472 What's interesting to me is that people are so skeptical of IBOs. They suggest that IBOs are dis-honest, and not good for there word. However, as anyone who has actually built a networking business understands, its all of the prospects who are usually dishonest. Its all you people who say, "yes lets meet for coffee," but never show up. Its all you people who agree to participate and then hide from your potential sponsors phone calls. Spineless if you ask me. Just have some guts, and say NO, I'm not interested. But that's not what you do. Instead, you slip away and posts anonymous entries on a blog somewhere. What’s interesting to me is that people are so skeptical of IBOs. They suggest that IBOs are dis-honest, and not good for there word.

However, as anyone who has actually built a networking business understands, its all of the prospects who are usually dishonest.

Its all you people who say, “yes lets meet for coffee,” but never show up. Its all you people who agree to participate and then hide from your potential sponsors phone calls.

Spineless if you ask me.

Just have some guts, and say NO, I’m not interested.

But that’s not what you do. Instead, you slip away and posts anonymous entries on a blog somewhere.

]]> By: Wilson http://ifup.org/2006/07/16/beware-britt-world-wide#comment-52226 Wilson Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:11:50 +0000 http://ifup.org/2006/07/16/beware-britt-world-wide/#comment-52226 I actually have just started my own business and I was out passing out promotional flyers for it when I wound up in conversation with this odd man (who was an IBO for bww/quixstar) who started aggressively asking me about what my dreams were, and I said to own my own business. And he was like "what kind" and I said basically what I am doing now. But apparently he really wasn't listening to me because beside saying I wanted to and do own my own business he kept trying to lecture me, sketchily alluding to his "rich" friends and how he worked for a company that was worth "8 billion dollars." This all seemed strange to me, as he said his name was a very American "Jack Hofman" but he spoke with a thick eastern european accent and wore a cheep watch. Additionally, he talked down to me because he perceived that I was young but I guess he could not perceive that I perceived that he was a crock and a jackass. Also, when talking about his "rich friend" he said "He is a man like you, he started his own business, well...not like you, you are colored" Yep he used the term "colored." He then proceeded to briefly mention Quixstar in a "maybe youve heard of them, or maybe you haven't because they are above you" fashion. He then proceeded to hand me business card which said "A & J International" on the top but the web address started with "bww" and I noticed that neither of those things started with "q" as in quixstar. If you ever met this man while you are out and about, take my word, he is a crock and a jackass. Do not get get roped into this bww/quixstar jackassary I actually have just started my own business and I was out passing out promotional flyers for it when I wound up in conversation with this odd man (who was an IBO for bww/quixstar) who started aggressively asking me about what my dreams were, and I said to own my own business. And he was like “what kind” and I said basically what I am doing now. But apparently he really wasn’t listening to me because beside saying I wanted to and do own my own business he kept trying to lecture me, sketchily alluding to his “rich” friends and how he worked for a company that was worth “8 billion dollars.” This all seemed strange to me, as he said his name was a very American “Jack Hofman” but he spoke with a thick eastern european accent and wore a cheep watch. Additionally, he talked down to me because he perceived that I was young but I guess he could not perceive that I perceived that he was a crock and a jackass. Also, when talking about his “rich friend” he said “He is a man like you, he started his own business, well…not like you, you are colored” Yep he used the term “colored.”

He then proceeded to briefly mention Quixstar in a “maybe youve heard of them, or maybe you haven’t because they are above you” fashion. He then proceeded to hand me business card which said “A & J International” on the top but the web address started with “bww” and I noticed that neither of those things started with “q” as in quixstar. If you ever met this man while you are out and about, take my word, he is a crock and a jackass. Do not get get roped into this bww/quixstar jackassary

]]> By: Man Who Tried http://ifup.org/2006/07/16/beware-britt-world-wide#comment-51325 Man Who Tried Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:36:46 +0000 http://ifup.org/2006/07/16/beware-britt-world-wide/#comment-51325 Amway/Quixtar is cultish. Everyone who works for them has the most glorious things to say about the company and its history. How many happy, successful employees can you find at other companies saying the exact same thing? The problem is that people who don't work for Amway/Quixtar has glowing things to say. Why? Men and women have been running businesses for thousands of years and you IBO's think that the Amway founders are geniuses who figured out something that no one else has? Everyone already figured it out, tried it, realized that they were selling people crap cosmetics and vitamins they don't need, felt guilty and quit. I did it and realized that I was lying to people about a product. Bill Britt has the greatest con of all, write a self help manual and sell it. If 50% of you IBO's tried to write one, 25% would complete one, 10% one sell some, but roughly 5% would make a profit. It doesn't cost Quixtar a dime to make you sell their products but if you study Economics, you'll realize that the amount of time you spend to sell stuff could be spent on a business model that works. You are working for them for free, then you make a small percentage on each product you sell. If you started your own company like that tomorrow, you wouldn't owe Quixtar a dime. Amway/Quixtar is cultish. Everyone who works for them has the most glorious things to say about the company and its history. How many happy, successful employees can you find at other companies saying the exact same thing? The problem is that people who don’t work for Amway/Quixtar has glowing things to say. Why? Men and women have been running businesses for thousands of years and you IBO’s think that the Amway founders are geniuses who figured out something that no one else has? Everyone already figured it out, tried it, realized that they were selling people crap cosmetics and vitamins they don’t need, felt guilty and quit. I did it and realized that I was lying to people about a product. Bill Britt has the greatest con of all, write a self help manual and sell it. If 50% of you IBO’s tried to write one, 25% would complete one, 10% one sell some, but roughly 5% would make a profit. It doesn’t cost Quixtar a dime to make you sell their products but if you study Economics, you’ll realize that the amount of time you spend to sell stuff could be spent on a business model that works. You are working for them for free, then you make a small percentage on each product you sell. If you started your own company like that tomorrow, you wouldn’t owe Quixtar a dime.

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